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they are in favor of tax cuts for the rich. they want to cut tax care programs and medicare and make seniors pay and threaten the economy of the united states of america by defaulting on payments or at least to threaten that. this is not a very popular position among the public. in fact, they will be -- i think it's a suicide mission that they are on, that the american people will make them pay the price. i really don't understand their strategy. >> margie, if you look at the fact that in the 2011 debt ceiling battle senator mitch mcconnell had this to say. he said, i think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage. you might take a chance at shooting. most of us didn't think that. what we did learn is this. it's a hostage that's worth ransoming. and it focuses theç congress o something that must be done. now, if this was their thought and attitude in 2011, do you think that's what we're dealing with, that kind of feeling, attitude of holding the hostage for ransom now? >> i hope not. it's bad for -
they are in favor of tax cuts for the rich. they want to cut tax care programs and medicare and make seniors pay and threaten the economy of the united states of america by defaulting on payments or at least to threaten that. this is not a very popular position among the public. in fact, they will be -- i think it's a suicide mission that they are on, that the american people will make them pay the price. i really don't understand their strategy. >> margie, if you look at the fact that in...
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no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. at chevy's year-end event, we have 11 vehicles that offer an epa-estimated 30 mpg highway or better. yeah? hey. hey. where's your suit? oh, it's casual friday. oh. [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. now get a 2013 malibu ls for around $199 per month, plus competitive lessees can get $1,000 toward the down payment for an even better deal. >>> good morning, everybody. i'm thomas roberts. topping the agenda the new grinch that's threatening to steal christmas, the seemingly insurmountable impasse over the fiscal cliff. live the president's pr campaign taking him outside the white house but inside the beltway. you're taking a live look at the president glad handing the group of busi
no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. at chevy's year-end event, we have 11 vehicles that offer an epa-estimated 30 mpg highway or...
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, more tax revenue? the president responded, high-end tax cuts do the least for economic growth and cost almost $ 1 trillion. extending middle class cuts boosts consumer demand and growth. the white house released a video today showing how president obama has been consistent on his message throughout the last couple of years. it was central to his campaign. >> we need to give tax relief to working families trying to raise their kids to keep them healthy, send them to college, keep a roof over their heads. that's the choice in this election. that's one of the reasons i'm running for a second term as president. >> how quickly we forget. in the words of secretary timothy geithner, this is why republicans have no choice but accepting the tax increases on the wealthiest americans. >> why does it make sense for the country to force tax increases on all americans because a small group of republicans want to extend for 2% of americans? why does that make any sense. there's no reason why that should happen. we ca
, more tax revenue? the president responded, high-end tax cuts do the least for economic growth and cost almost $ 1 trillion. extending middle class cuts boosts consumer demand and growth. the white house released a video today showing how president obama has been consistent on his message throughout the last couple of years. it was central to his campaign. >> we need to give tax relief to working families trying to raise their kids to keep them healthy, send them to college, keep a roof...
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they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do it by january 1st, we're going to keep passing tax cuts for the middle class. if they keep saying no, eventually they won't because the public pressure will be on them they need to step up. they have to quit protecting. they do everything in the name of the wealthy. >> okay. sherrod brown, stay with us. i appreciate it. >>> it looks like senator-elect elizabeth warren, a champion of financial reform, will get a spot on the banking committee. >>> and senator john mccain hints he might favor filibuster reform. debbie stabenow is here on rule changes. stay with us. we're right back. >>> to all the small business owners who are tired of the system rigged against them, we're going to hold the big guys accountable. >> welcome back to "the ed show." that's elizabeth warren of massachusetts who has been a true champion of holding the big guys accountable. they might be in for a rude awakening. warren will likely become a member of the b
they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do it by january 1st, we're going to keep passing tax cuts for the middle class. if they keep saying no, eventually they won't because the public pressure will be on them they need to step up. they have to quit protecting. they do everything in the name of the wealthy. >> okay. sherrod brown, stay with us. i appreciate it. >>> it looks like senator-elect...
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their tax rates are low. meanwhile, the middle class is disappearing, and they're in a lot of trouble. yes, the wealthy and large corporations must be asked to play a significant role in deficit reduction. yes, we must not cut social security, medicare, medicaid, education. that's not bernie sanders' point of view that is clearly what the american people believe. and the president, democrats have got to hold firm and when they do, it will finally be the republicans that come to the table rather than just the democrats caving in, as has been the case in the past. >> all right, senator bernie sanders, appreciate your time on this friday night. thank you so much for joining us. >>> coming up, the fight over the fiscal cliff is putting american jobs at risk. one of these congressional members is lying about the problem. we'll use the newest job numbers to get to the truth next. >>> and republicans in michigan are ramming through antiunion legislation and hurting middle class americans in the process. the people o
their tax rates are low. meanwhile, the middle class is disappearing, and they're in a lot of trouble. yes, the wealthy and large corporations must be asked to play a significant role in deficit reduction. yes, we must not cut social security, medicare, medicaid, education. that's not bernie sanders' point of view that is clearly what the american people believe. and the president, democrats have got to hold firm and when they do, it will finally be the republicans that come to the table rather...
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it is how we do tax policy. which is how we make investments and how we deal with those families in the video worried about debt and higher education and retirement. >> on the tax side, as part of the adults of a solution, to you think the gap between the way work is tax and investment and capital gains are taxed -- does that have to narrow as part of the final solution? >> i think so. capital gains going up 20%, some people suggest even more. that is something we should look at. there is concern about that. the differential is one of the reasons why will the americans pay so little. ann romney be one of them. it is not really fair. he thought it was -- mitt romney being one of the imperious -- to being one of them. >> on the other side of the leisure, they never released a math and with a scribbled all of the house -- on the other side of the ledger him, they never released a nafta and where they scribbled on of the ideas. we have had an election. shut those two ideas still be on the table the that the presiden
it is how we do tax policy. which is how we make investments and how we deal with those families in the video worried about debt and higher education and retirement. >> on the tax side, as part of the adults of a solution, to you think the gap between the way work is tax and investment and capital gains are taxed -- does that have to narrow as part of the final solution? >> i think so. capital gains going up 20%, some people suggest even more. that is something we should look at....
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are you -- is there no deal at the end of the year if tax rates for the top 2% aren't the clinton tax rates, period. no ifs, ands or buts on that specific aspect of the fiscal cliff. >> with respect to the tax rates, i want to emphasize, i am open to new ideas. i'm not going to slam the door in their face. i want to hear -- i want to hear ideas from everybody. >> that's not a no. here is the treasury secretary timothy geithner. >> there's no agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2%. >> not necessarily going up to the clinton era rates. just going up. today at a press conference at the capital, boehner got a question about this. listen carefully to how he responded or didn't respond. >> you did speak with the president earlier this week. can you characterize this call? and also we understand that he just is making clear that it's got to be increasing rates for the wealthy or no deal. are you willing to give a little bit? maybe just not all the way to 39.6? >> the phone call was pleasant, but just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, j
are you -- is there no deal at the end of the year if tax rates for the top 2% aren't the clinton tax rates, period. no ifs, ands or buts on that specific aspect of the fiscal cliff. >> with respect to the tax rates, i want to emphasize, i am open to new ideas. i'm not going to slam the door in their face. i want to hear -- i want to hear ideas from everybody. >> that's not a no. here is the treasury secretary timothy geithner. >> there's no agreement that doesn't involve the...
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they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do it by january 1st, we're going to keep passing tax cuts for the middle class. if they keep say iing no, eventually they won't because the public pressure will be on them they need to step up. they have to quit protecting. they do everything in the name of the wealthy. >> okay. sherrod brown, stay with us. i appreciate it. >>> it looks like senator-elect elizabeth warren, a champion of financial reform, will get a spot on the banking committee. >>> and senator john mccain hints he might favor filibuster reform. debbie stabenow is here on rule changes. stay with us. we're right back. eat good fats. avoid bad. don't go over 2000... 1200 calories a day. carbs are bad. carbs are good. the story keeps changing. so i'm not listening... to anyone but myself. i know better nutrition when i see it: great grains. great grains cereal starts whole and stays whole. see the seam? more processed flakes look nothing like natural grains. you can'
they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do it by january 1st, we're going to keep passing tax cuts for the middle class. if they keep say iing no, eventually they won't because the public pressure will be on them they need to step up. they have to quit protecting. they do everything in the name of the wealthy. >> okay. sherrod brown, stay with us. i appreciate it. >>> it looks like senator-elect...
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they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do it by january 1st, we're going to keep passing tax cuts for the middle class. if they keep saying no, eventually they won't because the public pressure will be on them they need to step up. they have to quit protecting. they do everything in the name of the wealthy. >> okay. sherrod brown, stay with us. i appreciate it. >>> it looks like senator-elect elizabeth warren, a champion of financial reform, will get a spot on the banking committee. >>> and senator john mccain hints he might favor filibuster reform. debbie stabenow is here on rule changes. stay with us. we're right back. if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. th
they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do it by january 1st, we're going to keep passing tax cuts for the middle class. if they keep saying no, eventually they won't because the public pressure will be on them they need to step up. they have to quit protecting. they do everything in the name of the wealthy. >> okay. sherrod brown, stay with us. i appreciate it. >>> it looks like senator-elect...
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some increase in marginal tax rates coupled with some kind of cutting back on tax expenditures. the real concern is shifting or will shift from the fiscal cliff to the debt limit. it's not at all clear that the republicans will agree to including a debt limit increase in that kind of package. if they don't, we may get past december 31st only to find ourselves with a big problem in february or march. >> the obama administration, the white house has been very clear, they will not sign anything, even to get past december 31st. that doesn't include a debt ceiling of some sort. so do you think they can hold firm on that if republicans offer them a package that doesn't include the debt ceiling? >> this is where i think the tension is now arising, which is even if you have some agreement over the tax rates which will jam the republicans a bit, can you jam them on the debt limit also. i think the concern will be an administration overstepping or overreaching and trying to jam a debt limit increase, especially the kinds that are being discussed now. i'm all in favor of getting rid of the
some increase in marginal tax rates coupled with some kind of cutting back on tax expenditures. the real concern is shifting or will shift from the fiscal cliff to the debt limit. it's not at all clear that the republicans will agree to including a debt limit increase in that kind of package. if they don't, we may get past december 31st only to find ourselves with a big problem in february or march. >> the obama administration, the white house has been very clear, they will not sign...
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good ideat is it not a matter of reducing the deficit because in congress we have people extending tax cuts that further blow a hole in the debt ceili. >> i don't want to be cruel, christian. i don't want to be curt. every dollar comes back as a $1.90 a. forget about the stock market and investing and put our money in unemployment befits. it is it resting on a complete fallacy of economics that conequals wealth. it is the same that pelosi and you. cash for clunkers and house stimulus . shovem ready stimulus jobbings. >> johnathon. why don't you listen to mark sand zandy of moody who advid john mccain's presidential anything. it is nothing to do with a progreive potion it i facts and common sense. >> that'slet numbers tre john layfield. what do you make of all of this. >> i think mark zandy is the wrong guy to wrote. christian this is good stimul but not how you do stimul. when you give people $300 that center a family and house to support. they have to spend that money and i disagree that americans are apathetic and lazy. they want jobs. you can find aerson who doesn't want a job, you
good ideat is it not a matter of reducing the deficit because in congress we have people extending tax cuts that further blow a hole in the debt ceili. >> i don't want to be cruel, christian. i don't want to be curt. every dollar comes back as a $1.90 a. forget about the stock market and investing and put our money in unemployment befits. it is it resting on a complete fallacy of economics that conequals wealth. it is the same that pelosi and you. cash for clunkers and house stimulus ....
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nobody creates a job to get a tax cut. you create jobs when you have more customers with more money to spend on product and services. it's getting money throwing through the bottom 90% of the economy. >> we're seeing record levels of long-term unemployment right now. this is the angst in the economy. even though it's dropped to 7.7%, millions of people have been out of work for 27 weeks or more. long-term unemployment benefits expire on december 29th. this is part of the cliff. it's going to be a tough holiday for a lot of families across the country. last week, we got to point out that the congressional budget office was reported we could add 300,000 more jobs by extending benefits. it would cost $30 billion. now will republicans agree at least to extend the unemployment benefits or do they just not see any value in doing that. because they are just opposed to it. >> they only need about 25 republicans to step over to agree to do this. and you're seeing grover norquist grip fall apart. this is a really important thing to
nobody creates a job to get a tax cut. you create jobs when you have more customers with more money to spend on product and services. it's getting money throwing through the bottom 90% of the economy. >> we're seeing record levels of long-term unemployment right now. this is the angst in the economy. even though it's dropped to 7.7%, millions of people have been out of work for 27 weeks or more. long-term unemployment benefits expire on december 29th. this is part of the cliff. it's going...
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no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. >>> first he supported and now he doesn't. we're talking about mitch mcconnell's legislation to avert defaulting on the nation's debt t would give the president greater power to raise the debt ceiling without approval, something the president wants. senator mcconnell brought up the legislation yesterday morning but by yesterday afternoon he was objecting. >> is there an objection? >> preserving the right to object matters of this controversy, what we're talking about is a perpetual debt ceiling grant in effect to the president. >> this morning, republican leader asked for consent on his proposal. just now i told everyone that we're willing to have that vote. up or down vote. and now
no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. >>> first he supported and now he doesn't. we're talking about mitch mcconnell's...
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the company gets a tax credit equal to those taxes in a confidential document. all over the place, that's what's happening. our tax dollars are being diverted to corporations through gifts, through tax credits, through all sorts of different mechanisms. >> how do we get into a conversation where we can talk about these elements rather than this sort of manufactured crisis? >> here is the thing. in your book, you really draw it here, the fact that these businesses are built a lot on ignorance. i have to say, a lot of industries, including the financial industry, is built on the fact that you have a bunch of people that know their product and how to structure it so that regular folks don't know what's going on. i don't think people are ignorant. people are really, really smart. there is so much to know when you have a giant corporation coming in and basically structuring everything so they can take those bank fees that never used to be there anymore and all those other fees you outlined. with the fiscal crisis, it is a matter of understanding. when you look at the
the company gets a tax credit equal to those taxes in a confidential document. all over the place, that's what's happening. our tax dollars are being diverted to corporations through gifts, through tax credits, through all sorts of different mechanisms. >> how do we get into a conversation where we can talk about these elements rather than this sort of manufactured crisis? >> here is the thing. in your book, you really draw it here, the fact that these businesses are built a lot on...
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those middle class tax cuts in that legislation would protect the tax cuts for 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses. that, as we are in the midst of the holiday season, is absolutely essential to continuing to get our economy turned around and focus on job creation. >> "the new york times" reporting today that negotiations are now down to just two people. the president, the house speaker. we know that some senate democrats dispute this. what do you think about this point with regard to the negotiations and who's in the room? >> i know that the president and his advisers are focused on making sure that in the discussions that they have with both the house and the senate that whatever plan they agree to includes a balanced approach. one that's fair to the middle class and one whose math makes sense and reaches the size of the duff sit reduction we need that doesn't balance all the pain on the backs of the middle class and that makes sure that we have suspending cuts and revenue. when it comes to entitlement reform, we have an opportunity to add another hundreds of billions of doll
those middle class tax cuts in that legislation would protect the tax cuts for 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses. that, as we are in the midst of the holiday season, is absolutely essential to continuing to get our economy turned around and focus on job creation. >> "the new york times" reporting today that negotiations are now down to just two people. the president, the house speaker. we know that some senate democrats dispute this. what do you think about this point...
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gains tax cut, not from the income-tax increase. lou: you and i have do what the repblicans, perhaps too often. we talk about the economics of it, the theory of it, if you will, the extraction of t, but but the realitys the republican party has not come up with a rejoinder, a respnse to a, if you will, a socialist redistributionist president who right now claims thefield is on because there is no other standard flying over that field. there is a spker of the house to is simply saying, this is not right. you know, we are not at the table and complaining, but not, not engaging. >> i think we have got to engage the argument. we cannot win the argument while acknowledging that an increase in tax rates would increase revenues and all. it will just today the top 1 percent are paying about 40 percent of the income tax. the top 25 percent are paying 87% of the income tax. it does not get any better than that. this is under the bush tax rates. you eliminate the tax rates and you will get less revenues, more capitol flight from the united sta
gains tax cut, not from the income-tax increase. lou: you and i have do what the repblicans, perhaps too often. we talk about the economics of it, the theory of it, if you will, the extraction of t, but but the realitys the republican party has not come up with a rejoinder, a respnse to a, if you will, a socialist redistributionist president who right now claims thefield is on because there is no other standard flying over that field. there is a spker of the house to is simply saying, this is...
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middle class tax cuts to proceed? that's their choice, and i think people like tom cole recognize that it's unsustainable to take the position that nobody gets tax relief because they hold out for folks with 250,000 and over to get this extra tax cut on the portion of their income above 250,000. after all, what the president is saying on that part of your income above 250,000, you're going back to the clinton era tax raites, which is 4 cents on the dollar. >> congressman van hollen, thank you for your time. we'll see what happens next. thank you, sir. >>> we could soon learn who the president wants to be the next secretary of state. chuck todd says a decision could come this week, but as we get closer to a decision, the partisan divide over the potential nomination of susan rice, considered the front-runner, seems to be intensifying. >> when it comes to susan rice as far as lindsey graham is concerned i find great fault with what she said on 16th of september. in other areas i find her lacking when it comes to being t
middle class tax cuts to proceed? that's their choice, and i think people like tom cole recognize that it's unsustainable to take the position that nobody gets tax relief because they hold out for folks with 250,000 and over to get this extra tax cut on the portion of their income above 250,000. after all, what the president is saying on that part of your income above 250,000, you're going back to the clinton era tax raites, which is 4 cents on the dollar. >> congressman van hollen, thank...
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it doesn't say we're going to raise taxes, it says this group for sure, your taxes are not saying get that done with, moving on the, the speakers put out a proposal, it makes sense to me. at the end of the month, taxes go up for everybody. let's make sure where we can, we save as many of those tax cuts for as many people as possible. it's not waving a red flag to recognize political reality. >> if speaker boehner comes to you all with a package that promises entitlement reform, or puts us on a path to it, or whatever, it does the same thing it does to spending cuts, does he have support within the caucus for raising tax rates? >> well, remember, tax rates are going up anyway, we're not raising them. that's current law. i think what the speaker has supported -- and you should look at the proposal he put out. the most interesting thing to me was every single one of our major leaguers signed it, paul ryan, who has a role because of his vice presidential nomination -- >> $800 billion worth of revenue. >> yes, a speaker is very strong, got us through a tough election, maintained our majori
it doesn't say we're going to raise taxes, it says this group for sure, your taxes are not saying get that done with, moving on the, the speakers put out a proposal, it makes sense to me. at the end of the month, taxes go up for everybody. let's make sure where we can, we save as many of those tax cuts for as many people as possible. it's not waving a red flag to recognize political reality. >> if speaker boehner comes to you all with a package that promises entitlement reform, or puts us...
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a good plan would be less taxes going up than more taxes going up. at this point, even a bad plan might be better than no plan. >> austin, it's clear from this jobs report the economy is stuck in second gear. what's it going to take to get to a higher gear right now, do you think? >> i think we got to get the growth rate up in the economy. certainly europe's not any help. what's happening in china and japan is not any help. then you add on top of it what's coming out of washington. i don't think you should get your hopes up about figuring it out before the end of this year. i think there's a pretty deept chance we go over the cliff and then try to sort it out in the beginning of the year. >> lovely. >> joe, when did 146,000 jobs become good? have we become so pessimistic -- have our expectations come so low we're cheering 146,000 when we should be well over 200? >> plus the downward revisions for the previous two months. >> although, those revisions were almost all in government. mandy makes a good point. 150,000 a month, which has been the average o
a good plan would be less taxes going up than more taxes going up. at this point, even a bad plan might be better than no plan. >> austin, it's clear from this jobs report the economy is stuck in second gear. what's it going to take to get to a higher gear right now, do you think? >> i think we got to get the growth rate up in the economy. certainly europe's not any help. what's happening in china and japan is not any help. then you add on top of it what's coming out of washington....
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$2,000 to $2400 for the average family, 2% cut in payroll taxes will disappear, 500 billion dollars in automatic spending cuts in effect, half at the pentagon the other half from educating, transportation, food safety and research. economists fear if washington can strike a deal the economy will fall back into recession and employment will shoot up. tahman bradley, abc news, washington. >>> sarah palin stepped out on the red carpet -- nancy pelosi stepped out on the red carpet for a night of glamour she strolled before photographers at last night's kennedy center honors she talked about efforts to resolve the impasse. >> this is not a night of politics and policy, but since you asked, yes we think it would be a wonderful christmas gift to the american people for the middle class to have a tax cut come january. >> pelosi says she will try to force a house vote on a senate passed bill to break the deadlock. >> the kennedy center on -- -- they received the nation's highest award. >>> let's look outside good morning. good news, it is dry this morning as we look down on some of the cloud
$2,000 to $2400 for the average family, 2% cut in payroll taxes will disappear, 500 billion dollars in automatic spending cuts in effect, half at the pentagon the other half from educating, transportation, food safety and research. economists fear if washington can strike a deal the economy will fall back into recession and employment will shoot up. tahman bradley, abc news, washington. >>> sarah palin stepped out on the red carpet -- nancy pelosi stepped out on the red carpet for a...
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tax cuts expire, right? >> initially they did and then were going to do tax reform. >> would they increase the taxes on the rich? >> yeah. >> they would? >> yes. >> to the same extent? >> i would have to do the math. >> don't you do any homework? >> numbers cruncher. dad, thank you so much. i wasn't chained in any way. >> no, he didn't call you co comical. >> you were not chained. >> old time memories. >> okay. >> senator claire mccaskill coming up next, joins us in washington. also cokie roberts. first to bill karins in new york. he has a check on the forecast. bill? >>> good morning to you, joe. we can say good-bye to those late summer/early fall like temperatures. the cold front is heading through neng neck and soon areas of the mid-atlantic. temperatures have fallen a little bit. watching chicago, much colder right now this hour than yesterday at this time at 27. so the midwest has returned to normal. the east coast, blustery weather will arrive during the aft afternoon. on that cold front we've had a li
tax cuts expire, right? >> initially they did and then were going to do tax reform. >> would they increase the taxes on the rich? >> yeah. >> they would? >> yes. >> to the same extent? >> i would have to do the math. >> don't you do any homework? >> numbers cruncher. dad, thank you so much. i wasn't chained in any way. >> no, he didn't call you co comical. >> you were not chained. >> old time memories. >> okay....
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it's not increasing taxes on the wealthy, it's just blanketly you increase taxes. so you've got all this noise going on. and boehner's got to try to figure out a way to give these guys some cover but know he's got to cut the deal. to your point, leigh, about how do you begin to pull it from the big plan to a smaller plan, that's really what the white house and boehner quietly are talking about. >> and what we don't want also is i think a kind of down payment deal that sort of makes it a two-part deal that just delays everything. >> i think you're going to get some of that. i think you'll probably get the big deal for the middle class. okay, we're going to take that off the table. and graham and others have said that. we know we're not going to raise taxes on the middle class. let's let the bush tax cuts stay in place for the middle class. and then it becomes a little bit more of an interesting conversation when you're only dealing with a smaller percentage of the plan as opposed to the big piece right now. >> so how does he -- how does john boehner save face? you t
it's not increasing taxes on the wealthy, it's just blanketly you increase taxes. so you've got all this noise going on. and boehner's got to try to figure out a way to give these guys some cover but know he's got to cut the deal. to your point, leigh, about how do you begin to pull it from the big plan to a smaller plan, that's really what the white house and boehner quietly are talking about. >> and what we don't want also is i think a kind of down payment deal that sort of makes it a...
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that is 98% of the american people, getting about 80% of this tax cut shouldn't have their taxes raised. so my suggestion -- it was delivered, by the way, in private and leaked and put in public. but that's fine. i mean, it's certainly what i said. my suggestion was let's take the one area that we agree and take it off the table. >> and -- but just to be clear, though, you actually think -- because this is when i saw your comment what i was so curious about, just from a negotiating standpoint. we had the super committee that failed, now we have the fiscal cliff, right? and if those sorts of deadlines aren't enough to get a deal, if you actually were -- were going to break with your own party or say go ahead, we'll extend them for the middle class, do you actually think that you would be able to negotiate a deal where they didn't go up on the top 2% at the beginning of the year? >> you might be able to negotiate that deal. again, i think a lot of people misunderstand, you know, what's happening with the 98%. number one, i don't think you ever ought to use the american people as, quote, l
that is 98% of the american people, getting about 80% of this tax cut shouldn't have their taxes raised. so my suggestion -- it was delivered, by the way, in private and leaked and put in public. but that's fine. i mean, it's certainly what i said. my suggestion was let's take the one area that we agree and take it off the table. >> and -- but just to be clear, though, you actually think -- because this is when i saw your comment what i was so curious about, just from a negotiating...
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she filed a petition to vote on a bill in the house to raise tax rates on upper income americans. it's a bill already passed in the senate but house speaker john boehner who doesn't want to bring it to a vote. nancy pelosi is trying to push him to make it happen. we'll bring you more details throughout the morning. >>> it was a shocking story. a man pushed to his death at a new york city subway station. the reason a newspaper is under fire because of that incident. >> we're live in palo alto women are being targeted in early morning attacks. we'll tell you why police think the incidents are related. >>> here's a look at san mateo bridge. you can see the rain is finally hit down here. we'll have more wet spots on your roadways coming up. you disgust me. prove it. enough is enough. d-con no view, no touch trap snaps to kill instantly. no looking, no touching. d-con. get out. [ girl's voice ] we're gonna have lunch together. what're you having? oh, well, i only have this one, so... that'll do, i'll split it with sally. yea, we'll just share it. [ male announcer ] get your own subway
she filed a petition to vote on a bill in the house to raise tax rates on upper income americans. it's a bill already passed in the senate but house speaker john boehner who doesn't want to bring it to a vote. nancy pelosi is trying to push him to make it happen. we'll bring you more details throughout the morning. >>> it was a shocking story. a man pushed to his death at a new york city subway station. the reason a newspaper is under fire because of that incident. >> we're live...
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cut come january. >> congress must come up with a budget compromise before the end of the year or tax hikes and federal spending cuts will go into affect. pelosi will try to force a house vote to break the deadlock. tonight's annual gala event honored the entertainment great including dustin hoffman, david letterman, led -zeplin and chicago's buddy guy. they received the award for culture and the arts. >>> the" twilight" finale held on to the number one spot for the third straight weekend earning more than $250 million domestically since it opened. "sky fall" hung on to second place followed by" lincoln," "rise of the guardians" and" life of pi." they should top $10 billion for the year next weekend. and now one last check on the weather with leigh glaser. >> we'll check one more time with live doppler 7hd. mainly clear conditions and no returns being picked up right now. that moisture has moved to the south and to the east of us. a nice break tonight and tomorrow, and then we will see a weaker system bring us more rain as we head into tuesday night and wednesday. if you are traveling
cut come january. >> congress must come up with a budget compromise before the end of the year or tax hikes and federal spending cuts will go into affect. pelosi will try to force a house vote to break the deadlock. tonight's annual gala event honored the entertainment great including dustin hoffman, david letterman, led -zeplin and chicago's buddy guy. they received the award for culture and the arts. >>> the" twilight" finale held on to the number one spot for the...
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cut come january. >> congress must come up with a budget compromise before the end of the year or tax hikes and federal spending cuts will go into affect. pelosi will try to force a house vote to break the deadlock. tonight's annual gala event honored the entertainment great including dustin hoffman, david letterman, led -zeplin and chicago's buddy guy. they received the award for culture and the arts. >>> the" twilight" finale held on to the number one spot foreed earning more than $250 million domestically since it opened. "sky fall" hung on to second place followed by" lincoln," "rise of the guardians" and" life of pi." they should top $10 billion for the year next weekend. and now one last check on the weather with leigh glaser. >> we'll check one more time with live doppler 7hd. mainly clear conditions and no returns being picked up right now. that moisture has moved to the south and to the east of us. a nice break tonight and tomorrow, and then we will see a weaker system bring us more rain as we head into tuesday night and wednesday. if you are traveling tomorrow, trying to esc
cut come january. >> congress must come up with a budget compromise before the end of the year or tax hikes and federal spending cuts will go into affect. pelosi will try to force a house vote to break the deadlock. tonight's annual gala event honored the entertainment great including dustin hoffman, david letterman, led -zeplin and chicago's buddy guy. they received the award for culture and the arts. >>> the" twilight" finale held on to the number one spot foreed...
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let's take a closer look at california's tax rate. the top individual tax rate was 10.3%. the second highest in the nation. due to a new proposition that was just passed that number is going to jump to 13.3% for top earners. perhaps this sentiment seems to be working in the golden state. which also has a corporate tax rate of 8.84%. which is why you don't see companies clamoring to open businesses in the state. pill * a lot of debt. martha: mr. grant from the "mary tyler moore show"? he voiced over that. he lives in france. bill: new concerns the u.s. is running out of doctors at a time when obama-care will put millions of americans into the system. our fox news medical a-team doctor on what needs to happen there. martha: they were trapped under a car struggling to breathe and split second heroics saved theof lives of her mother and child. of pepto-bismol to-go. bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tour
let's take a closer look at california's tax rate. the top individual tax rate was 10.3%. the second highest in the nation. due to a new proposition that was just passed that number is going to jump to 13.3% for top earners. perhaps this sentiment seems to be working in the golden state. which also has a corporate tax rate of 8.84%. which is why you don't see companies clamoring to open businesses in the state. pill * a lot of debt. martha: mr. grant from the "mary tyler moore show"?...
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they also pay the taxes themselves. like most working americans, they actually see the tax dollars. small-business people write the check and send it into the irs and see every last dime of it. there is a tax collectors, they collect with holdings and send them in as well. they are the only people who really see, touch, feel, implement every aspect of the tax code. that is why it is high on their minds and agenda. one thing about the structurally unemployed is that there may be more hope for them this time. we had this before in the 1970's. happened then was not good. people lost 40% of their income. five years later they lost most if not all of their benefits and that is where they stayed where they left the labor market. this time there is some hope that the depth of the recession and enter manufacturing and in construction because of the tie to the construction industry and wall street will climb out of this of the enter a robust way. all of the numbers show rises in part because the whole is so deep. it is a bit of a false dawn. it is doubtful construction will go back to what i
they also pay the taxes themselves. like most working americans, they actually see the tax dollars. small-business people write the check and send it into the irs and see every last dime of it. there is a tax collectors, they collect with holdings and send them in as well. they are the only people who really see, touch, feel, implement every aspect of the tax code. that is why it is high on their minds and agenda. one thing about the structurally unemployed is that there may be more hope for...
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and then he accuses president obama of taxing christmas. [ applause ] >> taxing christmas. >> stephanie: it's not even worth my energy to explain. >> how do you tax christmas? >> stephanie: you don't, and that's why -- you don't. you don't. [ sighs ] >> stephanie: like that added anything to the show. >> you want an angel on the top of the tree it is going to cost you. obama is going to charge you a million dollars. >> stephanie: all right. forty-six minutes after the hour. right back own the "stephanie miller show." >> on the stephanie miller radio show in suburban america this morning -- >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ [ boy 1 ] hey! that's the last crescent. oh, did you want it? (vo) when the clock runs out when the last card is played i want the people who watch our show, to be able to come away armed with the facts, and the arguments to feel confident in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. but it's also about telling them, you're put on this planet for something more. i want this show to have an impact beyond just i
and then he accuses president obama of taxing christmas. [ applause ] >> taxing christmas. >> stephanie: it's not even worth my energy to explain. >> how do you tax christmas? >> stephanie: you don't, and that's why -- you don't. you don't. [ sighs ] >> stephanie: like that added anything to the show. >> you want an angel on the top of the tree it is going to cost you. obama is going to charge you a million dollars. >> stephanie: all right. forty-six...
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should the middle-class tax cuts be extended? should the bush tax cuts on the rich end? should we end the medicare guarantee for our seniors and the next generation? well, those big questions were discussed, argued and clear positions were taken, and voters went to polling places on election day to render their verdict. and, mr. president, the outcome was clear. candidates who stood up for the middle class won. candidates who advocated for our seniors came out ahead. and in exit polls across the country, voters made very clear that they strongly supported the idea that the wealthy should pay higher tax rates and their fair share. and everyone -- democrat, republican, independent, wealthy, low income, middle class, students, workers, retirees, older, younger and inbetween -- everyone, everyone supports extending the tax cuts for the middle class. nobody thinks that the taxes should go up for 98% of our workers and 97% of our small business owners. so, mr. president, this ought to be easy. the american people just weighed in supporting a continuation of the bush tax cuts f
should the middle-class tax cuts be extended? should the bush tax cuts on the rich end? should we end the medicare guarantee for our seniors and the next generation? well, those big questions were discussed, argued and clear positions were taken, and voters went to polling places on election day to render their verdict. and, mr. president, the outcome was clear. candidates who stood up for the middle class won. candidates who advocated for our seniors came out ahead. and in exit polls across...
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host: the estate tax or the capital gains tax? guest: the estate tax. host: if it's an asset, you pay capital gains. guest: right. host: we have this comment on twitter from james. guest: corporations would say the businesses are already being taxed. folk should not be taxed for investing in their business. host: double taxation. guest: that is the argument. when people die, they are being taxed again. that is the essence of the argument against the estate tax. host: can you start over? caller: a quick question about the comments of the 401(k). i used to work for a cpa firm. i understand they are income tax deferred instruments. when you take it out, the tax you pay is income tax. the assumption is the rate would be lower. let's say the rate is 25% when you retire. that is higher than the current cap gains tax rate. it does not apply to 401(k)'s or any other income tax deferred instrument. when you take them out, you pay taxes on them. guest: that is correct. you pay income tax and presumably when you retire, you are at a lower tax rate and that is the
host: the estate tax or the capital gains tax? guest: the estate tax. host: if it's an asset, you pay capital gains. guest: right. host: we have this comment on twitter from james. guest: corporations would say the businesses are already being taxed. folk should not be taxed for investing in their business. host: double taxation. guest: that is the argument. when people die, they are being taxed again. that is the essence of the argument against the estate tax. host: can you start over? caller:...
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and then he accuses president obama of taxing christmas. [ applause ] >> taxing christmas. >> stephanie: it's not even worth my energy to explain. >> how do you tax christmas? >> stephanie: you don't, and that's why -- you don't. you don't. [ sighs ] >> stephanie: like that added anything to the show. >> you want an angel on the top of the tree, it is going to cost you. obama is going to charge you a million dollars. >> stephanie: all right. forty-six minutes after the hour. right back own the "stephanie miller show." >> on the stephanie miller radio show in suburban america this morning -- >> announcer: it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ [ boy 1 ] hey! that's the last crescent. oh, did you want it? (vo) when the clock runs out when the last card is played what will be remembered? explore the lives of the famous and infamous who changed our world forever. experience the drama, back to back to back. of all the hours in all their days, the ones you'll never forget are the final 24. don't miss the final 24 mini-marathon this sunday on current tv. save the best for last. [ boy 1 ] hey! t
and then he accuses president obama of taxing christmas. [ applause ] >> taxing christmas. >> stephanie: it's not even worth my energy to explain. >> how do you tax christmas? >> stephanie: you don't, and that's why -- you don't. you don't. [ sighs ] >> stephanie: like that added anything to the show. >> you want an angel on the top of the tree, it is going to cost you. obama is going to charge you a million dollars. >> stephanie: all right. forty-six...
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it would raise taxes on the wealthiest 2% of americans but extend current tax rates for everyone else. the pressure is mounting on both sides. a new poll out this morning, a pew research polls show most americans would blame republicans in congress if we go over the fiscal cliff. alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:13. right now, president obama is meeting at the white house with a bipartisan group of governors. reportedly, those governors asked for the meeting with the president. they want to urge president obama to work with congress on the solution to the fiscal cliff. in the afternoon, the same group will meet with house speaker john boehner, california governor jerry brown, by the way, is not in this group. >>> 8:14. the owner of drake's bay oyster company is working with a legal team to fight the decision by the federal government to shut down his operation. kevin lenny announced yesterday he does not plan to give up the federal government's order to give up the company. oakland's largest pot club get as key victory in court. a county judge ruled that harborside medical cen
it would raise taxes on the wealthiest 2% of americans but extend current tax rates for everyone else. the pressure is mounting on both sides. a new poll out this morning, a pew research polls show most americans would blame republicans in congress if we go over the fiscal cliff. alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:13. right now, president obama is meeting at the white house with a bipartisan group of governors. reportedly, those governors asked for the meeting with the president....
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>> stephanie: won't rule out a 37% tax rate? congressional leaders in both parties signaled they would be open to compromise on the top bracket tax rates. what is the point of winning a second landslide in a row? >> because -- >> stephanie: he was asked about a top rate of 37. halfway between the current rate of -- to the point where it's supposed to go back to. >> we still need the house in order to pass the law. >> stephanie: nancy pelosi says it is about the money. getting the money to grow the economy and unleash the power. she didn't know if a top tax rate of 37% would bring in sufficient revenue. >> handouts. entitlements. social security. >> social security? >> stephanie: can't say that. too many ss. >> the 47%. >> stephanie: okay. >> drunk uncle. >> stephanie: the white house has said 39.6% is its preference but has not ruled out 37%. [ wah wah ] the white house believes it has the leverage because it is willing to go off the cliff which is what they have said. that's why i don't get why we compromise on the rate. why wo
>> stephanie: won't rule out a 37% tax rate? congressional leaders in both parties signaled they would be open to compromise on the top bracket tax rates. what is the point of winning a second landslide in a row? >> because -- >> stephanie: he was asked about a top rate of 37. halfway between the current rate of -- to the point where it's supposed to go back to. >> we still need the house in order to pass the law. >> stephanie: nancy pelosi says it is about the...
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give 98% of us tax relief. the things that both sides agree on and then the president yesterday thinks the president is poised to take off. obviously going over the cliff is the last thing anybody wants right now. >> i agree. i hear people on both sides talk about that. it may have been a contrived cliff. i know some folks call it a curve or whatever they want to call it. the fact of the matter is a large portion of any economy is the psychological effect of it. and you can't tell me that middle class -- i'm a teacher my wife and i -- that they're thinking about what happens if that tax bill changes on january 1st and they're making decisions about their spending right now. that's reality. the one thing i agree with republicans on in the 2010 elections was that the economy needed certainty. the thing that frustrates me is it is creating more uncertainty by them not signing on to this and passing it. >> stephanie: absolutely. what i was saying last hour, representative, the thing we're not falling for is some of
give 98% of us tax relief. the things that both sides agree on and then the president yesterday thinks the president is poised to take off. obviously going over the cliff is the last thing anybody wants right now. >> i agree. i hear people on both sides talk about that. it may have been a contrived cliff. i know some folks call it a curve or whatever they want to call it. the fact of the matter is a large portion of any economy is the psychological effect of it. and you can't tell me that...
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tax cuts, big tax cuts for rich people started under george w. bush and then we had the biggest economic collapse since the great depression. what does that tell you? >> stephanie: why can't they ever acknowledge that? they ran away from bush. no one campaigned on george bush. they must know his policies didn't work. why are they pretending they did? >> he wasn't even at the convention. >> memory hole. >> stephanie: gee, who was really front and center of our campaign? bill clinton! kind of weird. >> good president. >> stephanie: mary in pennsylvania. hi mary. >> caller: hi, there. i love your show. didn't start watching it until late in the campaign. and i feel like i found a wonderful friend. >> stephanie: aww. >> caller: my question is grover cleveland -- >> stephanie: his ideas are just as fresh. [ laughter ] >> caller: exactly. if he think the average career only lasts 25 years has he signed up all of those people to the pledge 20 years ago shouldn't we be getting ready to throw him a retirement party pretty soon? >> stephanie: yeah, one wou
tax cuts, big tax cuts for rich people started under george w. bush and then we had the biggest economic collapse since the great depression. what does that tell you? >> stephanie: why can't they ever acknowledge that? they ran away from bush. no one campaigned on george bush. they must know his policies didn't work. why are they pretending they did? >> he wasn't even at the convention. >> memory hole. >> stephanie: gee, who was really front and center of our campaign?...